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September 19, 2013
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I would have posted this with a picture, but I haven't built anything yet because I'm not entirely sure that it would even count as a portal ship, considering the fact that it wouldn't actually be a "ship" but it would be in the same time zone and it would still function as a ship. For our unnamed, underwater village, me and erikteen had plans of constructing a surfaced submarine portal ship (probably steampunk style to fit the old fashioned theme. Hey, airships didn't exist like the ones in the server back then ). I plan to build a model if I could get any statement possibly stating that I just might be able to legally build a "portal submarine". I look forward to a response.

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September 19, 2013
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With permission, a portal submarine would be allowed. Please build it in creative first, not on VC, and show us the plan.

Also, note that submarines are not allowed to dock in Vetropolis, so it would have to go somewhere else, and that also means you'll have to build BOTH ends of the portal.

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September 19, 2013
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Great. I can understand why it can't dock in Vetropolis, but I'll have to debate where the entrance will be (That or I'll try an airship instead). Either way, I'll see what I can come up with in creative.

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September 19, 2013
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Perhaps a portal airship to a small island or dock somewhere, with the submarine portal also being docked there? I know it would be more than double in cost due to having 2 portals, but just an idea...

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September 20, 2013
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Sgt_Hurls said
Perhaps a portal airship to a small island or dock somewhere, with the submarine portal also being docked there? I know it would be more than double in cost due to having 2 portals, but just an idea...

I would do this if we didn't have such a low budget. It's ten thousand shillings to buy the portal alone.

Either way, I made my first design. It looks kinda weird, but I can fix that with some more work. Here it is. (I decided to ditch the steampunk concept and went for redstone instead, hence the daylight sensors.)

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September 20, 2013
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Alright, I made a better version. It has a more realistic front and back AND it is longer as well. Here it is.

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September 21, 2013
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Unfortunately, a nuclear sub doesn't fall withing the motive and period guidelines for Vetronian ships. Something along the line of the USS Monitor or CSS Virginia would be more acceptable.

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September 22, 2013
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Alright, I made a completely new model based off of the CSS Virginia. Here it is.

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September 22, 2013
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If you build an ironclad, shouldn't it be clad in iron?

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September 22, 2013
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If I replaced the redstone and lapis (and glowstone) with iron, would that be approved? (Maybe the wood too)

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September 22, 2013
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I think what he's trying to say is that although the clay definitely has the color of what an ironclad would look like, it's still clay... if you replaced all of the clay with iron, it'd look more like a ship built out of.. well.. iron. (Edit: Although, reading up on the CSS Virginia a bit, I can't tell exactly how much of the parts at waterline and below were iron - it appears some parts below waterline may have been timber).

As for the redstone/lapis/glowstone on top... I'll be honest here, and please take this with a grain of salt (!), but to me it kind of looks like an airport runway.

If you look at pics of the CSS Virginia, other than the smoke stack in the middle, about the only thing you'll see at the top of it are railings from end to end (which, coincidentally, I think iron bars would work wonderfully to mimic the look of btw).

If you're going for the aesthetics, I think changes like that would bring the build much closer in line with a tried and true Ironclad...

...just keep in mind I am FAR from being a master builder myself, lol, so I'm not the best player to be critiquing others' builds, really, (Emulated and LWK are really the ones that can give you the most solid advice - I'm not even in the same league) but those are the changes I'd try next if I were the one building this. Kiss

When you get the final design right on this, it's gonna look awesome!

Edit: Found some images that might help. Smile

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September 23, 2013
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Keep in mind, if you're going for a submarine, Ironclads are not subs. They were merely "clad in iron" above the surface to protect them from cannonballs.

If you're looking for a submarine, look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.....th_century. My personal favorite of this age would be the Ictineo II (Translated, something like "New Fish," I think). Keep in mind, this was a VERY small sub, at only 2 meters wide, that's only 2 blocks wide and you wouldn't have any space for...anything.

VeteranCraft does breach into the realm of fantasy, though, so long as the period is honored. Just look at the airships. If I were you, I would forget nuclear, and forget ironclads, and go steampunk, which is period-appropriate and malleable to our standards.

Use wood, reinforced with iron.
Use wooden steps to smooth out the edges so it's less blocky.
Don't use things like redstone or lapis for color, it doesn't look good and doesn't work structurally. If you must have color, try not to make it part of the boat's structure. Flags, carpets, etc. It's one of the reasons balloons and sails work so well.
Try to keep it utilitarian. One of your above pics has pictures frames inside the boat. Instead, take a lesson from the interior of the Ictineo II: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F.....o_plan.GIF. Boilers, engines, pipes, portholes, seats, etc. I find that combinations of pistons, hoppers, anvils, and the like do a GREAT job as aesthetic (but non-functional) engines.

Good luck!

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September 23, 2013
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Thanks a lot for your suggestions Trip6s6i6x, but I decided to follow LWK's idea and go back to my original concept of a steampunk design. I took my old sub design and.... Well, I made it better in every way. There's probably some interior AND exterior flaws, but overall I think this will be the design type I'll be doing. Here's what I worked on. (P.S. Apologies in advance for the super annoying ice that refuses to go away. I also expect comments on the back end since I'm pretty sure it's less than ideal as it is now.)

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September 25, 2013
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I think that I've decided by now that this request should be withdrawn. It will not be easy to find or access if the submarine stopped somewhere else, and I'd have a lot of trouble searching for a spot. I've already started working on a portal airship design instead, so... thread closed?

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September 25, 2013
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