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January 4, 2015
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SuperSheep23
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Hi. So this post is by NO MEANS a request for a portal ship. Its nowhere near done. I've never built a portal ship before, and I know the server has a lot of rules and such for them, so I was just wondering if what I have going so far is good. A few things I know I need are a propeller in the back, some suggestions for that might be nice, and the balloon dimensions are probably a little small. I tried to make the balloon big but it didn't work out that well. Also, I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the balloon really needs to be connected in the three spots, or if just the center one is fine. I came up with the balloon design myself, but I am definitely open to suggestions. I like the shape of the hull, but it may be a tad small. It's about 26 long, and 9 wide and 9 deep, so Id be willing to double everything to make it bigger. I don't know, just any constructive criticism would be really helpful. Thanks! :)

 

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January 4, 2015
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This design would have worked in Vetronia, when the standards were smaller because the Skydock south of Vetropolis was really small.  However, with Arda and the new Skydock at Exodus, the standards are a lot larger.  

The standards for airships at the Skydock are 61x25x50, and we would like most or all of the length and width to be used, naturally scaled to the size of the gondola below.  In your example, the gondola is a bit over half the length of the balloon, which IRL would not be buoyant.  Meaning, there's no way that airship would ever fly.

Now, if you maxed out the balloon size to the Skydock standard of 61 long by 25 wide, and equaled that with 25 height for the balloon, your gondola would be just over 1/3rd the length and less than 1/2 of the width of the balloon, which would be much better.

Balloons aren't easy, but here's a template, set to the Skydock standard.  You can play around with it from there: http://oranj.io/sphere.html?wi.....ere_hollow

As for the connections, you definitely need MORE than those three.  A popular way to do the connections is to use wooden and metal fences as "ropes" to connect the gondola to the balloon. Colored glass panes could also work.

A propeller or two on the back is key, but also consider vertical propellers, and lateral propellers.  The more maneuverable the airship is, the more realistic.

Especially for Exodus ships, realism and quality are key, and taking the time for those kinds of details.  So many of the ships that are proposed are bare bones and minimal, and of a tiny size because players don't want to take the time to make them to what should be a "proper ship."  I LOVE the shape of your hull there, and with a bit more work on details and extras to make it more realistic and fleshed out, and with a full-sized balloon, that one COULD be approved for Exodus.

As an aside, the standard for the Exodus Skydock is set because that's how much space is available for the airships.  So long as a proper balloon/gondola ratio is held to, and basic things like propellers are included, non-Exodus airships can be any size.  The main thing to keep in mind is the larger the balloon, the more likely it is to be approved. 

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January 4, 2015
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Okay so I'm going to make the balloon that size, thanks for the help! Updates to come

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January 4, 2015
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i also like the shape of the hull, very nice!

January 7, 2015
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Is this balloon size better? I know there aren't supports atm but ill add those with the design on the balloon. Just the size for now.

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January 7, 2015
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Much!  The size is wonderful.  Remember it doesn't have to be that perfect ovaloid, either, you can play with the shape.  But yes, that IS the balloon-to-gondola ratio we're looking for. :)

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January 12, 2015
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Holy crap man what are we building here a blimp or an airship. In  reality the buoyancy of the airship depends on the material it's made out of assuming that's canvas for the balloon and the gondola is made out of wood and gold you can figure up whether or not it would float in fact I will probably do that for my airship to determine my airships buoyancy. If my balloon has to be that big then you might be shooting for the moon. Also I would like to add that if you want a proper ship then it likely won't fit in the air dock mine is a about a minimal sized airship and it is too big already don't mean to sound rude but this post shocks me a bit light.

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January 12, 2015
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This was decided upon during the formation of Arda.  Myself, Emulated, meatbawllz, and frelling.  You're welcome to disagree with it, but I can assure you that if this sort of ratio isn't followed, it won't be going into Exodus.  You can vary the shape of the balloon to be unique, it doesn't have to be "blimp round" like Sheep made it, and you may be able to offset the size of the balloon a bit with vertical propellers, but Sheep's post is the closest we've EVER seen what we really want as far as a balloon:gondoloa ratio.  You'll have to accept that, or you won't get an airship to Exodus.

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