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November 5, 2014
11:10 pm
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Okay so I want to build an airship and I wanted to ask for approval this is the ship I am proposing

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November 6, 2014
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dont quote me on this but i think that the volume of the ballon need to be bigger in relation to the basket

November 9, 2014
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very original design, i love it. in my opinion the balloon is not too small, but it is not for me to decide.

November 9, 2014
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It is a beautiful design, but yes - please make the balloon larger.

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November 10, 2014
1:14 am
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If truly neccessary i will make the balloon larger. However the two pictures currently up there are a bit skewed here is the dirgible from a more apropriate perspective

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November 10, 2014
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No picture showed up, at least that I can see.

If I'm counting correctly, the balloon is 45 long, 17 high, and 17 wide.

If you could, please post the dimensions of the gondola.  It's harder to tell from the first two pics.

 

I will concur with Adituno and Emulated that design is beautiful, but the balloon should be bigger.  

One question I have is whether this balloon is intended to eventually be a portal ship to Exodus?  If so, please use the standards on the Portal Ships Page and increase the balloon to 23 wide and high (this will leave you a space on each side for the net), and decrease the fin length so you can maximize the length of the balloon closer to the standard of 61.

If you don't wish to make this a portal ship, then you're not limited to the standards, and should try to expand the length of the balloon to at least 60, and I would recommend the width and height being increased to at least 21.

It IS truly necessary to get the balloon to an appropriate size.  Airships constitute a violation of our "no floating structures" rule, and for us to approve an exception from that rule the vessel must be air-worthy.  As it current is shown, the balloon would be incapable of lifting a gondola of that size.

 

Best of luck! :)

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November 10, 2014
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Yeah sorry about that the whole ship from the rudders on the front of the balloon tot the stern rudders is 72 blocks the balloon is 49 blocks long 17 blocks wide and 17 blocks tall  basket is only 32 blocks long 11 blocks wide and 12 blocks tall

Here is a picture of it from the side so you can see the length height of the Dirigible

Dirigible-Airship.pngImage EnlargerAlso the cobble stuff in front of the dirigible is the tip of the USS Yorkshire another airship I am working on I may submit that later but as of now it is only 70% complete so in the future. In most pictures of airships I have looked at on Google the balloon is actually the same size or smaller than this one for most airships unless. This is one of the pictures I looked at while building mine a while ago to get an idea of the workings of the balloon and the way it was mounted.

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November 14, 2014
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The picture you provided is an artists rendition of an airship battle. 

 

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This is a real airship. While we understand there are realistic limitations in Minecraft, the fact remains that your gondola is too large for the balloon size. As Keith said above, if it is for a portal ship you will have to fit within the size restraints on the Portal Ship page.

TL;DR: Fix the balloon:gondola ratio.

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November 17, 2014
9:42 am
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If I make the balloon 3 or 4 blocks larger in scale then will it be approved. Also the airship is not intended to be a portal ship I just want it to be a cargo vessel docked at the airship tower at spawn so it can be seen.

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November 17, 2014
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The airship tower, the Skydock, is only for active portal ships.  You can place approved airships as personal builds elsewhere, but Exodus is not for showing off.  It is for portals to the rest of Arda.  Those portals cost 100k shillings to establish and 10k shillings per month to stay active.

Increasing the balloon by 3-4 blocks is not sufficient.  Please attempt to increase the balloon to dimensions I state here.  Think at least 10 more in length, and 5 in height and width.  Since you're not making a portal and aren't constrained to the space available at the Skydock, it should be no issue to comply with the request.

Thanks.

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November 20, 2014
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Okay I get that you want it bigger by increasing the scale I mean adding 5 blocks of length to the front and back of the balloon so the dimensions of the balloon in total are actually 59 blocks long 27 blocks wide and 27 blocks high for the balloon. Now if when I construct the balloon it is still too small I will increase it. Now for the docking place while you have places market out for airships the ends of the docks are not marked out. My proposal is I would like to ask if I could dock there since it isn't going to be used for anything. I don't want to show off my work I just want to help spruce spawn up by helping make the air dock have aesthetic appeal so that way it looks like it is a working hub where merchants and travelers pass through. Also I have an idea that might be cool for spawn I would like in the future submit a proposal to design a series of 3-4 ships to be flying around the air dock so it looks more like a working hub area.

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February 22, 2015
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better-balloon-1.pngImage EnlargerOkay so after much time spent I have made a new balloon it's 73 blocks long 27 blocks wide and 27 blocks tall

I know the rigging isn't complete but it will basically be the same as the last ships rigging was and also it will have proportional fins for steering. Also the balloon is made of stone brick currently but I will actually be making out of wool. The stone brick is just for measuring purposes.

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February 22, 2015
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So far so good. The sizes look good and you're on the right track for approval when it's done.  Again, it's too big for Exodus, but it can work for portals to other places or a non-portal ship.

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